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Post subject: Re: Japan - Shiratsuyu Class DestroyerPosted: April 14th, 2013, 8:17 pm
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BB1987, I am curious as to the configuration of the Y mount on these destroyers - it looks like they have interference issues at certain directions. I am simply curious as to their configuration (and not at all doubting the accuracy of your work).
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Post subject: Re: Japan - Shiratsuyu Class DestroyerPosted: April 14th, 2013, 8:33 pm
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BB1987, I am curious as to the configuration of the Y mount on these destroyers - it looks like they have interference issues at certain directions. I am simply curious as to their configuration (and not at all doubting the accuracy of your work).
the fact is that the aft deckhouse is offset to starboard in order to house the reloads for the aft torpedo mounts, and the muzzle of Y turret gun lies just behind it; here is a picture of Marusame and Samidare wich shows better the layout.
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the barrel here is elevated but at rest position (elevation 0Β°) it sits above the torpedo reloads, wich are lower then the rest of the deckhouse; simply showing the ships from the starboard side as usually done on shipbucket hides that feature behind the deckhouse itself, i so can assume that to turn the gun to the right the barrel has to be elevated a bit in order to clear the deckhouse end (altough ot that much as it's aft end slopes downward as the drawings show)..

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Post subject: Re: Japan - Shiratsuyu Class DestroyerPosted: April 14th, 2013, 9:27 pm
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Fascinating. Thank you very much for humoring my question!

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Post subject: Re: Japan - Shiratsuyu Class DestroyerPosted: April 15th, 2013, 2:12 am
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Gotcha...and interesting pic, thanks for posting!

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Post subject: Re: Japan - Shiratsuyu Class DestroyerPosted: April 15th, 2013, 3:57 pm
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Yudachi as of 1942:
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minimal modifications were done on the Shiratsuyu class ships by the time they entered WWII, the most noticeable ones were the fitting of a degaussing cable and the deletion of the katakana kanji wich spelled their names on each side. On the night of november 12th 1942 Yudachi escorted Admiral Abe bombardement force and engaged the US fleet during the 1st Naval Battle of Guadalcanal; after torpedoing USS Portland she was disabled by gunfire and later sunk py Portland herself.

Suzukaze as of 1943:
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by late 1943 suzukaze recied a twin 25mm machine gun mount in front of the bridge and two trilpe ones abreast the funnel in place fo the previous twin 13mm ones, she was sunk in January 1944, torpedoed by USS Skipjack while escorting a convoy to Enewetak Atoll.

Harusame as of 1943:
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After beign torpedoed and heavily damaged by USS Wahoo in January 1943, Harusame was repaired and extensively refitted: the bridge structure was modified, most of the portholes sealed, the single 5-inch gun turret was replaced by a triple 25mm machine gun mount, another two triple mounts were fitted abreast the funnel in place of the earlier 40mm singles, and finally a twin 25mm mount was added in front of the bridge; the last addition was a type 22 surface search radar fitted on the foremast.
Harusame was sunk in june 1944 after beign bombed by american B-25, interestingly she was the only Shiratsuyu class ship to fell victim of an aerial attack.

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Post subject: Re: Japan - Shiratsuyu Class DestroyerPosted: April 15th, 2013, 4:00 pm
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Post subject: Re: Japan - Shiratsuyu Class DestroyerPosted: April 15th, 2013, 9:35 pm
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Shiratsuyu as of 1944:
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Damaged in november 1942 after beign bombed by US aircrafts Shiratsuyu returned to Sasebo and was repaired by June 1943, during this time anti-aircraft armament was implemented, the sinle 5-inch gun was removed and three and one twin 25mm machine gun mounts were added.
Shiratsuyu sank on june 15th 1944 after colliding with tanker Seiyo Maru.

Samidare as of 1944:
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first refitted like Shiratsuyu Samidare returned to the yards again in 1944, in addition to the 3 triple and single twin 25mm machine guns already fitted another 10 singles were added; a Type 22 surface search and a type 13 air search radars were fitted on the foremast.
Samidare was sunk in late august, torpedoed by USS Batfish.

Shigure as of 1944:
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after earning the nickname "miracle ship" during the guadalcanal campaign Shigure was refitted extensively: the anti-aircraft fit was argumented to reach a total of twenty-one 25mm machine guns in triple, twin and single mounts, a Type 22 surface search and a type 13 air search radars were also fitted on the foremast; in october of the same year during the Philippine campaign she lived up to her reputation by beign the only survivor of admiral Nishimura southern force at the Battle of Surigao Strait.

Shigure as of 1945:
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after the Philippine Campaign Shigure had the anti-aircraft suite further argumented with the addition of extra 25 and 13mm machine guns, most of the torpedo reloads were also landed.
Shigure finally ran out of luck on January 24th 1945, when she was torpedoed by USS Blackfin; still she sank slowly, allowing 270 out of her 307 crewmember to escape before going down.


with this, the thread is completed, all drawings can also be found in the first page.

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Post subject: Re: Japan - Shiratsuyu Class DestroyerPosted: April 15th, 2013, 9:39 pm
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The level of awesomeness here is overwhelming.

Shigure was the miracle ship one more time after Leyte Gulf...she escorted carrier Unryu in December 1944, and would later prove to be the only survivor again.

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Post subject: Re: Japan - Shiratsuyu Class DestroyerPosted: April 16th, 2013, 7:04 am
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emperor_andreas wrote:
The level of awesomeness here is overwhelming.
I simply must agree! :D


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