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KimWerner
Post subject: Re: Type22sPosted: April 21st, 2011, 10:52 pm
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Hi bezobrazov :D Here is my first COA drawing for your Type22. I've chosen the most difficult (I think) to draw first. It's the COA of HMS Campeltown. I can asure you it was a tough one, but I'm very satisfied with the result so I hope you will be pleased with it ;)
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We'll see which one will be next :D

Edit: This version here is the corrected and the same as below on this side

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Post subject: Re: Type22sPosted: April 21st, 2011, 11:12 pm
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Whoaaaa! I'm flabbergastedly impressed! Thanks and thanks a million times! The only one I (kinda) made myself was the one belonging to HMS London since there's no truly satisfactory depiction of it, but I'm more than willing to send you my copy for your perousal, since I used a wreath that was of the .jpeg-type; i e the sort we're not supposed to use! But this is a work of art, my friend! It truly is. I'll update the ship image soon with this CoA, and at the next uploading, I'm going to request that those for which you've been so kind to make be replaced! 1000/10! :D :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Type22sPosted: April 21st, 2011, 11:14 pm
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Oh, btw, just as a foot note Kim, noticing your image name: I'm actually originally from the city of Malmö, in Southern Sweden (for you Former East Denmark *smirk*) So I was required to study and read Danish!

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Post subject: Re: Type22sPosted: April 21st, 2011, 11:25 pm
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bezobrazov wrote:
Oh, btw, just as a foot note Kim, noticing your image name: I'm actually originally from the city of Malmö, in Southern Sweden (for you Former East Denmark *smirk*) So I was required to study and read Danish!
So you are escused; It's not your fault you're swedish :lol: ;) Beside the joke (for all swedes: it was a joke in a friendly manner) I will gladly receive your jpg-file of HMS London COA. Then it will be my next COA project :D

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Post subject: Re: Type22sPosted: April 22nd, 2011, 2:53 am
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Hi bezobrazov. I would have PM the file if it wasn't because I've discovered something odd :shock: Apparently there are two COA's for HMS London. The one you send me and another which I discovered on a homepage for sailors who have joined the Type22's. I tried to figure out which one that is the right but couldn't get a valid answer. So I drawed both and hopefully one of our mates here can tell us which of them you shall use ;)
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EDIT: The shields are corrected april 22:!:

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Post subject: Re: Type22sPosted: April 22nd, 2011, 3:16 am
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well, go figure! The one on the right I didn't know of! The one on the left is the official one; it's from it that the stylised red sword adorning the flukes forward of the funnel is inspired. That would be the one used. The one on the left, too would've had two golden 'R's on either side of the St George's Cross, and an 'N' on the bottom centre. I have failed to find out the exact meaning of those letters, since the City of London's motto was: "Domine Dirige Nos; Lord Lead Us!" - adopted by the Rump Parliament, in 1653, confirmed by King Charles II, in 1661 and hence the city's motto. At least those are the versions I've seen. Another, third version, and that's the one I dabbled with, featured, instead, golden Tudor roses in place of the letters! These would make sense, since the first, historic Tudor, Sir Owen Tudor, was a stable Master at Hampton Court; a position which enabled this Welshman's rise to power and influence, and pawing the way for his son Henry (VII) Tudor to seize power, in 1485, after Bosworth. Really, though, I realise, it appears to be some confusion on this matter.

I'll post one of my early Londons with the CoA that I tried to make for comparison:

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As you may notice, this is entirely based on the actual City of London CoA, which your left one is too, but the difference here is, besides the Tudor Roses, that the upward-pointing sword is solid red and stylised, and the cross proper is thicker.

BUt, as usual, confusion or not, your work is as always most outstanding! :) :D

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Post subject: Re: Type22sPosted: April 22nd, 2011, 7:02 am
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KimWerner wrote:
Hi bezobrazov :D Here is my first COA drawing for your Type22. I've chosen the most difficult (I think) to draw first. It's the COA of HMS Campeltown. I can asure you it was a tough one, but I'm very satisfied with the result so I hope you will be pleased with it ;)
[ img ]
We'll see which one will be next :D
Kim, minor (but important ;) ) nitpick: the ship's name is CAMPBELTOWN (note the "B"):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HMS_C ... _badge.jpg


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Post subject: Re: Type22sPosted: April 22nd, 2011, 2:23 pm
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rd77 wrote:
KimWerner wrote:
Hi bezobrazov :D Here is my first COA drawing for your Type22. I've chosen the most difficult (I think) to draw first. It's the COA of HMS Campeltown. I can asure you it was a tough one, but I'm very satisfied with the result so I hope you will be pleased with it ;)
[ img ]
We'll see which one will be next :D
Kim, minor (but important ;) ) nitpick: the ship's name is CAMPBELTOWN (note the "B"):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HMS_C ... _badge.jpg
:mrgreen: Thanks. I hate when I do this minor mistakes. Especially when I've spell the name correct in my file name :shock:
Here the right version:
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Post subject: Re: Type22sPosted: April 22nd, 2011, 4:20 pm
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No sweat mate! It's happened on numerous occasions for me too! And I wouldn't probably have noticed it even, being so mezmerised by the sheer art of your work! *LOL*

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Post subject: Re: Type22sPosted: April 22nd, 2011, 4:33 pm
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Hi bezobrazov :D
I've succeeded to find the right homepage of COA. The one with RNR is in fact a badge for Royal Navy Reserves who belongs to HMS London. The right on is the COA with the red daggert/sword.
Here the two corrected COA's:
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