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acelanceloet
Post subject: Re: French protected cruisersPosted: January 2nd, 2013, 7:50 pm
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yes, while less good looking, the style you have now is, as far as I know, forbidden by shipbucket rules. I am not the one that has to say if it is allowed or not.
the pic you show now could use some improvement at the fore and aft ends of the ship, and maybe even an second shading colour to show the different angles of the body, but that would be as far as I would go, it actually already looks good amidships to me.

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Post subject: Re: French protected cruisersPosted: January 2nd, 2013, 7:57 pm
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The use of gradients breaks the Shipbucket style, which is designed to be plain and simple to reproduce using just MSPaint. Limit your tumblehome depiction to 2 to 3 colors maximum and I think it will fit within the style guidelines given the extraordinary requirement.

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Post subject: Re: French protected cruisersPosted: January 3rd, 2013, 8:30 am
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My idea was that when - like in this case there are 3 deck-levels on hull, levels 1 and 3 would be in one shade and level 2 in the other (along the whole length).
I admit that it would look far from perfect too, but would be rather more SB-style.


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Post subject: Re: French protected cruisersPosted: January 3rd, 2013, 11:01 am
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Yes, We don't upload stuff that has gradient shading to the mainsite as it stands against basicly everything SB is supposed to be as a style. The alternative post you showed actually DOES look good, it looks Shipbucket ;)

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Post subject: Re: French protected cruisersPosted: January 3rd, 2013, 3:01 pm
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I agree with Golly, the second alternative looks almost spot on for SB style.

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Post subject: Re: French protected cruisersPosted: January 3rd, 2013, 4:14 pm
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Fantastic work! Great start, welcome to SB. :)


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Post subject: Re: French protected cruisersPosted: January 3rd, 2013, 7:25 pm
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Colosseum wrote:
The use of gradients breaks the Shipbucket style, which is designed to be plain and simple to reproduce using just MSPaint. Limit your tumblehome depiction to 2 to 3 colors maximum and I think it will fit within the style guidelines given the extraordinary requirement.
Hello there

OK, a maximum of three colours it is then. It will look like that (the old shading template above, a new one reduced to three colours below):

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Please inform me if that's OK and I shall change the drawings.

PS having said that, the old shading style actually was hand-rendered with MS Paint. Took 15 minutes, was the same one on every ship (scaled to two different widths). MS Paint is the only program I use, for anything more complicated I am too... don't know. Old, or dumb, or not nerdy enough. But hey, rules are rules.

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Post subject: Re: French protected cruisersPosted: January 3rd, 2013, 10:11 pm
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I don't know if it will give you some comfort, but you're not the first to have this trouble ;) For my self it took a while before I fully understand it back then. But if we become too "artistic" then we risk a lot of members and newcommers don't dare to draw. For SB the most important is to draw ships in right shape and size and correctly equipped. Therefore the rules are relatively restricted. But I will suggest you to draw your ships two ways; in SB-style uploaded in Real designs and in artistic style uploaded in Personal designs. That way you can satisfy both the rules and your personal artistic ambition :D
BTW without being a moderator I think your tree tone suggestion may be approved. But let a moderator answer that ;)

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Post subject: Re: French protected cruisersPosted: January 4th, 2013, 5:03 am
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Personally I prefer the first sample. Less gradient borders shown; gives to it a much smoother - let's say more professional appearance. If that's not SB-style, then maybe we ought to 'graduate' to that level. We do have now a fantastic bunch of truly amazing artists here who, I'm sure would be up for it! And for the rest: ahh well, too bad! Garlicdesign, I am truly amazed with your quality work so far. I haven't been able to find that Drouyn de Lhuys design I was talking about; it's tcked away somewhere since our move. I was planning on doing the heavy cruisers of the Suffren-class (1930), but I wonder if I oughtn't let you do them - though if you do, I expect full hulls and all four of them!

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Post subject: Re: French protected cruisersPosted: January 4th, 2013, 5:57 am
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At the other extreme, we still have people who use the ancient, early SB style which has become rather bland, compared to your work, and those like Hood, Alvama, and Portsmouth Bill.

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