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Gollevainen
Post subject: Re: Finnish IBs hard to die... Apu, Tarmo, Varma, Tor and NjPosted: December 11th, 2011, 9:36 am
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These are quite extraordinary collection, well done. :)

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Post subject: Re: Finnish IBs hard to die... Apu, Tarmo, Varma, Tor and NjPosted: December 11th, 2011, 9:48 am
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I am 99% sure that I should add another one: on Conway's the Oden is given as the sister ship of Tarmo but she is not part of the Tor class... I guess that the Oden was probably as Tarmo while Tor and Njord were armed.
BTW few bad black/white picture are available in the net :(

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Post subject: Re: Finnish IBs hard to die... Apu, Tarmo, Varma, Tor and NjPosted: December 11th, 2011, 7:01 pm
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WhyMe wrote:
I'm not gonna argue, it's up to you, I guess :)
Anyhow, your drawings are awesome.
At the end I reconsidered all the class and the naming and I changed all.
Basically I put first the class and then the vessel name and finally the operation years.
On the drawing of the head of the class I do not use the class name but I list all the units of the class itself.
Moreover I think that basically the class name is "country" related: when a ship like Tor or Varma are going to another country they lost the original class becoming "simple" units (or the head of a single-unit class which has no class denomination)
I think that this would be a suitable good approach to the class/ship naming... I'll open a discussion in General Discussion about this topic.

PS: you could note that I distinguish between civil and militarized icebreakers: the first ones are designated as IBs while the others are AGB or WAGB.

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Post subject: Re: Finnish IBs hard to die... Apu, Tarmo, Varma, Tor and NjPosted: December 11th, 2011, 8:08 pm
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I wasn't actually aware about the selling of the Tor to the Russians! Never recall having either seen it in the news or read about it while still living over there. Else really and truly terrific drawings! Now, are you planning on drawing the Sisu/Atle class IB:s too? I have a fairly good plan of the Swedish class, since I was planning on drawing them, but seeing your work, I might as well give that up...

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Post subject: Re: Finnish IBs hard to die... Apu, Tarmo, Varma, Tor and NjPosted: December 11th, 2011, 8:38 pm
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bezobrazov wrote:
I wasn't actually aware about the selling of the Tor to the Russians! Never recall having either seen it in the news or read about it while still living over there. Else really and truly terrific drawings! Now, are you planning on drawing the Sisu/Atle class IB:s too? I have a fairly good plan of the Swedish class, since I was planning on drawing them, but seeing your work, I might as well give that up...
I am actually struggling on Oden (the first one of 1958) but I would be happy to do Sisu/Atle class is Golly agrees...

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Post subject: Re: Finnish IBs hard to die... Apu, Tarmo, Varma, Tor and NjPosted: December 14th, 2011, 10:07 pm
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MS Polar Star (ex Njord) added...

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Post subject: Re: Finnish IBs hard to die... Apu, Tarmo, Varma, Tor and NjPosted: December 15th, 2011, 9:16 am
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I got Sisu at somewhat 50% completed, so I would love to finish it up myself.

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Post subject: Re: Finnish IBs hard to die... Apu, Tarmo, Varma, Tor and NjPosted: December 15th, 2011, 11:23 am
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Gollevainen wrote:
I got Sisu at somewhat 50% completed, so I would love to finish it up myself.
I'll wait for her and eventually we will make also the swedish sisters.

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